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Governor Tony Evers. Photo taken Oct. 8 by Sophie Bolich.
Federal Border Czar Tom Homan suggested Thursday Gov. Tony Evers could be arrested if he impedes any U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) operations in Wisconsin.
It’s not the first time President Donald Trump‘s border czar has issued such statements. Before the new administration took office, Homan was threatening elected officials with prosecution, including Chicago Mayor Brandon Jackson. He issued the veiled threat Thursday at the White House in response to questions about Evers and a recent memo outlining instructions for state employees if ICE or other federal agents show up at their offices.
“Yesterday, a Trump Administration official, in not so many words, apparently threatened to arrest me for distributing guidance that asked state agency employees to consult with an attorney if federal agents show up at state buildings with legal documents,” Evers said. “The goal of this guidance was simple—to provide clear, consistent instructions to state employees and ensure they have a lawyer to help them comply with all federal and state laws. Nothing more, nothing less.”
Homan was asked why elected officials aren’t being arrested for “harboring and shielding illegal aliens” from deportation.
“Wait and see what’s coming,” Homan responded.
He offered the same retort when asked specifically about Evers and recent a memo outlining instructions for state employees if ICE or other federal agents show up at their offices or places of work. The memo tells the employees to call their agency’s attorney and to ask the agents to remain in public areas. It also tells them not to allow ICE agents access to any paper files or computer systems without speaking to their attorney, even when presented with a warrant. Ask for the agent’s name and identification and don’t answer questions, the memo says.
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“Wait and see what’s coming,” Homan said. “Remember what I said, and you can not support sanctuary cities if that’s what you want to do, but if you cross that line of impediment, or knowingly harboring and concealing an illegal alien, that is a felony and we’ll treat it as such.”
The question came from Jordan Conradson of Gateway Pundit, a far-right website that has trafficked in conspiracy theories about the 2020 election. Conradson characterized Evers’ memo as a directive “to not comply with ICE and actually stop your deportation efforts.”
Forty-one Assembly Republicans previously sent Evers a letter that asked the governor to rescind the guidance and said the recent arrest of Judge Hannah Dugan “underscored the importance for our state to legislate and enforce compliance with federal immigration law.”
Attorney General Josh Kaul, a Democrat, called Evers’ memo “common sense” during a recent interview with WISN 12.
“Now, I’m used to Republicans and the right wing lying about me,” Evers said. “It comes with the job, but, this time, these lies came at a cost. I haven’t broken the law. I haven’t committed a crime. And I’ve never encouraged or directed anyone to break any laws or commit any crimes.”
Assembly Republicans said Evers memo was unlawful and that, “Disregard for our system of laws is not resistance, it is pavement on the road to chaos.”
Meanwhile, Evers is suggesting Republicans should consider a similar message following Homan’s comments.
“Chilling threats like this should be of concern to every Wisconsinite and every American who cares about this country and the values we hold dear,” Evers said. “We live in the United States of America, folks. We are a country of laws. The rule of law matters. Following the law matters. “
The threat, Evers said, represents “a concerning trajectory in this country.” The federal government is not supposed, or persecute, citizens who haven’t committed a crime and or simply because they hold different political views, Evers said.
“And as disgusted as I am about the continued actions of the Trump Administration, I am not afraid,” Evers said. “I have never once been discouraged from doing the right thing, and I will not start today.”
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Welcome back to boxing, Ryan Garcia … with a nasty punch to the face.
Rolando “Rolly’’ Romero landed it – a hard left hook followed by another that knocked down Garcia in the second round. Romero rode the momentum to an upset victory by unanimous decision in their 12-round welterweight fight Friday night in New York’s iconic Times Square.
The judges scored it 115-112, 115-112, 118-110 in favor of Romero.
“He fought a good fight,” Garcia said during an in-ring interview on the DAZN livestream. “He caught me early. No excuses, man.”
Garcia, 26, returned to the ring after a one-year suspension for a failed drug test. The loss put in jeopardy a planned rematch with Devin Haney that was expected to take place in the fall.
Haney looked hesitant earlier in the night while beating Jose Ramirez by unanimous decision. Garcia also looked apprehensive, especially after the knockdown and getting his first sample of Romero’s power.
“I just think that whole year took a lot off my body, physically and mentally,” Garcia said. “I’m just happy that I made it to the ring and went 12 rounds.”
Car horns could during the early fights during an unprecedented event – a boxing show held on a temporary ring in Times Square.
The boxers arrived for fights by vehicles. Garcia pulled up in the Batmobile. But the only boxer who showed a flash of superpower was Romero, who improved to 17-2.
In the first of the three featured fights, Teofimo Lopez beat Arnold Barboza Jr. by unanimous decision. But Garcia’s loss could have the biggest impact.
In April 2024, he beat Haney by majority decision, but he failed a post-fight drug test. That turned the outcome into a no-contest and led to Garcia’s suspension that ended April 20 when his New York boxing license was reinstated.
But Garcia fell to 24-2. And now it’s unclear when or if he and Haney might fight each other again.
USA TODAY provided round-by-round coverage and highlights of all three main event fights in New York’s Times Square. Scroll below for all the action.
Rolando “Rolly’’ Romero landed the blows, knocking down Ryan Garcia in the second round on his way to a victory by unanimous decision Friday night in New York’s Times Square.
The judges scored it 115-112, 115-112, 118-110.
RESULT: Rolly Romero def. Ryan Garcia unanimous decision.
Round 12: Garcia will need a knockout. Will there be any urgency? Romero firing jabs, and they get tangled up. More jabs. No sense of urgency from Garcia, who seems fearful of Romero’s power. Romero 116, Garcia 111.
Round 11: They’re pawing at each other with jabs. Then Romero lands a hard body shot, and Garcia still looks tentative. Romero lands another hard body shot. Garcia has felt the power, maybe a few too many times. Garcia lands a hard left to the body of Romero, who scarcely flinches. Romero 106, Garcia 102.
Round 10: Romero’s punches still look powerful. Garcia still looks cautious. A hook lands hard. Romero gets aggressive, and Garcia shows little resistance. Romero misses with a big right and staggers toward a corner. He lands a big right, and Garcia looks stymied. Romero 96, Garcia 93.
Round 9: Romero charges forward and lands body shots. Then connects with a hook. Romero coming alive. Romero showing impressive power as he chases after Garcia. Romero 86, Garcia 84.
Round 8: Romero looks to want to rough up Garcia – close the distance and street fight. Garcia may be waiting for his chance. He connects with a solid jab. Firing more jabs, but nothing else. Ref warns the fighters to stop holding. Romero lands a couple of punches as the round ends. Romero 76, Garcia 75.
Round 7: Again, it’s Romero’s body shots vs. Garcia’s lefts. The action has waned. Romero lands a hard right. Garcia looks full of hesitation as Romero lands a body shot. They get tied up, and Romero sneaks in a few light blows to the face. Garcia 66, Romero 66.
Round 6: Romero comes out more assertively, but Garcia answers with a left hook. The pair get tangled up and untangled by the ref. Tied up again before Romero delivers a shot to Garcia’s body. Garcia 57, Romero 56.
Round 5: Romero misses early, and Garcia lands a handful of punches early. Garcia capitalizes on an opening with a right. Garcia unleashes a left to the body. Garcia throwing but not taking any serious risks. Romero content to throw body shots. Garcia 48, Romero 46.
Round 4: Romero cautious. Likely looking for the opening that served him so well in Round 2. Garcia comes forward and throws the left. Romero throwing lefts to the body. Not sure anything is reaching the target. A flinch from Garcia. Bracing for another left hook from Romero? Garcia 38, Romero 37.
Round 3: Fighters at the center of the ring; neither backing away. Garcia lands a left, and Romero bullrushes him into the ropes. The ref intercedes. Action slows, with Garcia content to fire the jabs and hard lefts. Romero 28, Garcia 28.
Round 2: Romero nails Garcia with two hard lefts and drops Garcia!!! But Garcia is back up, and the fight resumes. He nails Romero with a left and another while barely avoiding a right from Romero. Garcia coming forward and lands a left. Garcia moving forward and throwing that left hook. Romero lands a hard overhand right. Garcia moving forward again and lands a left. Not backing away. Garcia lands another hook. Romero 19, Garcia 18.
Round 1: Ryan Garcia looks bigger than Rolly Romero. Garcia lands a crisp jab. More to come? Clearly an effective weapon, as he’s now landed a bushel of them. Romero trying to answer with jabs but struggling to reach Garcia. Romero looks tentative, but connects, lightly, with a left to the midsection. Garcia 10, Romero 9.
Garcia did not take a Yellow Checker cab to the boxing ring. He pulled up in what looks like the Batmobile. Garcia was not driving the Batmobile. But looked content to be riding shotgun.
In the final bout of the night in New York’s Times Square, Ryan Garcia will take on Rolando “Rolly” Romero in a 12-round welterweight fight.
The scorecards showed Haney won the 12-round welterweight bout against Ramirez decisively. But the fight lacked sizzle.
The boxers landed a combined 110 punches, according to DAZN’s broadcast.
Haney flinched repeatedly when Ramirez got in close, but his opponent failed to land many punches. In the end, Haney’s quickness and hand speed served him well.
The judges scored it 119-109, 119-109, 118-110 for Haney, who improved to 32-0. The victory helped secure a likely rematch with Ryan Garcia.
Ramirez fell to 29-3.
RESULT: Devin Haney def. Jose Ramirez by unanimous decision.
Round 12: Ramirez in need of a knockout, but it looks futile. Just lands a left to the body and fires a couple of shots as Haney darts away. Haney pot shotting. Mercifully, the fight comes to an end. Haney 119, Ramirez 109.
Round 11: Haney throws a big right. And misses. He needs to land a punch like that, if only to prove he’s equipped for a rematch with Garcia. Ramirez lands a right. Haney burning lots of calories, and outpunching Ramirez. Haney 109, Ramirez 100.
Round 10: Haney back to moving rather than standing his ground. The strategy likely is paying off on the scorecards, but this is not vintage Haney. Did Garcia retire vintage Haney? He eats two jabs. Ramirez corners Haney and scores, but Haney’s quickly on the move again. Haney 99, Ramirez 91.
Round 9: Ramirez attacks and lands a body shot. Attacks again and lands a right. Nothing that will stagger Haney, but he needs to land more punches. Haney lands a strong right and darts to his right rather than follow up. Ramirez chasing Haney, but eats a couple of punches when he gets too close. Haney 89, Ramirez 82.
Round 8: With all the moving, Haney treating Ramirez as if he’s a Hall of Famer. Then finally slows and throws. Lands. Haney opening up. Ramirez has no answers. Haney 79, Ramirez 73.
Round 7: With all this running, Haney is definitely getting in his steps. Ramirez lands a left and then eats a right counter. Haney landing more punches but taking few chances. Ramirez showing underwhelming ability to score. Haney 69, Ramirez 64.
Round 6: Ramirez opens with a left that grazes Haney. Hey, it’s progress. Haney stays on the move and quickly covers up at the sight of any punch. Ramirez bleeding from under his left eye, and he scores with a left. Haney responds with a combination, followed up with a solid body shot. Haney 59, Ramirez 55.
Round 5: Almost non-existent action here. Ramirez struggling to catch up to Haney, and Haney staying on the move without punching. Well, just like that, Haney lands a combination. Haney 49, Ramirez 46.
Round 4: Haney staying on the move, as if in fear of getting hit. Just when he seemed ready to assert himself, Haney backtracks. Not a dynamic fight, to say the least. Ramirez showing little ability to hit Haney with any authority. Haney 39, Ramirez 37.
Round 3: Haney’s corner has put tape over the uncooperative Velcro, according to DAZN’s Jim Lampley. Haney throwing more punches, but still looks tentative when Ramirez attacks – not often enough. Haney unleashes a hard left hook. Then lands a solid right. Ramirez looks mostly flat footed and slow. Haney 29, Ramirez 28.
Round 2: The Velcro strap still flapping on Haney’s right shoe. Haney finally fires a crisp left, but he’s still looking oddly tentative. The result of a year-long layoff or haunted by getting knocked down by Ryan Garcia three times? Nice left from Haney, and the good thing for him is Ramirez is doing very little. Haney lands a solid right as he comes alive. Ramirez 19, Haney 19.
Round 1: A muscular Devin Haney doesn’t look ready to flex them immediately. He backpedals in the opening moments. Jose Ramirez scores with a couple of lefts. Haney’s looking strangely tentative. Ramirez misses with an overhand right. Haney’s fists looked holstered. Velcro strap comes loose from Haney’s right shoe. Wardrobe malfunction? Ramirez 10, Haney 9.
Devin Haney will take on Jose Ramirez in a 12-round welterweight fight next in Times Square.
Capitalizing on his hand speed and quickness, Lopez outclassed the previously undefeated Barboza and won the WBO super lightweight title. Lopez celebrated his victory with a backflip in the ring.
Lopez took a hard right early that left blood flowing from under his left eye, but he maintained control in the 12-round fight.
The judges scored it 116-112, 116-112, 118-110 for Lopez, who improved to 22-1.
Barboza suffered his first loss and fell to 32-1.
RESULT: Teofimo Lopez def. Arnold Barboza Jr. by unanimous decision.
Round 12: Lopez throws a flurry, then backs away. Doesn’t look willing to risk a decision in exchange for going for the KO. Barboza land two big shots, but Lopez responds. And talks a little trash as the fight comes to a close. Lopez 117, Barboza 111.
Round 11: Mike Tyson analysis on DAZN: “It’s a shutout, I think. I’ve never seen him look like this before. He’s improved as a fighter.” More showboating from Lopez. Not so much punching. Barboza lands a nice right, followed by another one. Dancing’s not going to win this round. Lopez 107, Barboza 102.
Round 10: Barboza stalking and lands a right, but eats a punch in return. Lopez staying very active with his left hand. Lopez 98, Barboza 92
Round 9: Lopez keeping his distance, perhaps to protect his apparent advantage on the scorecard. Could the strategy backfire? Well, just like that, Lopez gets revved up. He pounds Barboza and shows off the footwork on defense again. Barboza fighting back but looks overmatched, especially by Lopez’s speed. Lopez 88, Barboza 83.
Round 8: Lopez leading with his left and throwing rights, too. Barboza landed the hardest punch of the fight, but he looks hesitant – less apt to attack than counterattack. Lopez drills Barboza with a solid body shot and starts showboating, dodging punches. Lopez 78, Barboza 74.
Round 7: Lopez not shaken up by those rights. He comes out firing. Barboza lands a punch but missed with two. Lopez cloes the gap and delivers a punch to Barboza’s midsection. Lopez showing impressive versatility. Lopez 68, Barboza 65.
Round 6: Lopez could be landing more punches but seems to be enjoying some preening and showboating as he works the ring. Oh, Lopez takes a big right! Barboza follows up with a second right. Lopez cut underneath his left eye. Lopez 58, Barboza 56.
Round 5: Lopez lands a left to the body and takes a counter left to the head. Barboza looks down but not out. Lopez capitalizing on his quickness and footspeed again. Barboza trying to measure the distance – too far – before he throws his punches. Lopez scores a hard right then lands a flurry of jabs. Lopez 48, Barboza 47.
Round 4: Lopez land a combination almost the moment the bell sounds. Lopez showing his quickness and footspeed now. An elusive target taking control. Barboza landing the occasional punch, but nearly enough to win a round. Barboza 38, Lopez 38.
Round 3: Lopez firing body shots and throws a hard right, too. Looks comfortable but has yet to press the action. Barboza responds with a straight right. Lopez lands a hard left and now showing more authority that include another hard right. Barboza 29, Lopez 28.
Round 2: Barboza has set up at the center of the ring, then charges after Lopez. Barboza lands a left and maybe gaining confidence. Barboza throws a solid right counter. Barboza 20, Lopez 18.
Round 1: Arnold Barboza Jr. and Teofimo Lopez both open with left jabs. Lopez throws a combination and Barboza paws back with the jab. Barboza steps forward and throws a combination. Lopez throws an overhand right, so hard he briefly loses his balance. Barboza lands a couple of crisp punches. He closes strong but eats a right hand too. Barboza 10, Lopez 9.
Teofimo Lopez will defend his WBO world super lightweight title in a 12-round bout against Arnold Barboza Jr. Friday night in the first of three fights on the main card.
Ryan Garcia vs. Rolly Romero start time
The three-fight main card is scheduled to start around 5:30 p.m. ET.
Where is Ryan Garcia vs. Rolly Romero fight?
The Ryan Garcia vs. Rolly Romero fight will take place in New York’s iconic Times Square.
Ryan Garcia vs. Rolly Romero main fight card
Ryan Garcia vs. Rolando Romero, welterweight fight
Devin Haney vs. Jose Ramirez, welterweight fight
Teofimo Lopez (c) vs. Arnold Barboza, WBO junior welterweight title fight
How to watch Ryan Garcia vs. Rolly Romero fight
The entire fight card will be streamed on DAZN PPV.
All available odds are for moneyline bets (as of Thursday), according to BetMGM.
Main Card
Ryan Garcia (-900) vs. Rolando Romero (+500) welterweights
Devin Haney (-1100) vs. Jose Ramirez (+550) welterweights
Teofimo Lopez (-275) vs. Arnold Barboza (+190) WBO junior welterweight title
Tsutsumi, a highly touted 22-year-old prospect from Japan, looked impressive in his pro debut.
He tattooed Whittington with hooks and uppercuts during a six-round featherweight bout. In the second round, he staggered Whittington, who managed to stay on his feet, thanks to some help from the ropes.
The referees scored it 60-54, 60-54, 58-56 in favor of Tsutsumi. Whittington, a 25-year-old from Chicago, fought gallantly but dropped to 1-3-1.
The prelims and fight will be available for live stream on DAZN.
Ring card girls need not apply
During the opening two fights, the ring card presenters included Snoop Dogg, Hulk Hogan and Deadpool. All imposters, as typically found walking the streets in Times Square.
Boxers, tip your drivers
Reito Tsutsumi of Japan arrived at the ring for his pro debut in a yellow taxi. So it goes during this unprecedented boxing event in Times Square. His opponent, Levale Whittington, arrived in a black SUV. No odds posted yet on whether Ryan Garcia will arrive in a pedicab.
FDNY prevails over NYPD
With car horns audible during the fight, James Gennari of the FDNY beat Joel Allen of the NYPD by unanimous decision in a three-round amateur fight. The bout marked the debut of the “ring view,” compliments of a small camera worn on the ear of the referee. In this case, the left ear.
Mike Tyson on the set
Serving as a guest analyst, Tyson arrived sporting a flashy suit. Not what he wore when he was growing up in Brownsville. So far, he’s been pretty mild mannered. No threats to eat anyone’s children.
When asked if the boxers might get distracted by the sights and sounds in Times Square, Tyson said, “These are professional fighters, like I am. We’ve been handling pressure since we were a little kid.’’
The Ryan Garcia vs. Rolly Romero card is available for $59.99 but is also available for $89.99 via the DAZN Knockout Weekend Bundle that includes the Alvarez Vs. Scull card on Saturday, May 3.
Apratim Banderjee writes: “Ryan Garcia can put his opponents out as he has shown time and again during his career. Apart from the power, Garcia’s speed is phenomenal. Meanwhile, Rolly Romero has nuke-like power and like Garcia, he can put anyone to sleep with a shot. That said, he might not be as technically gifted as Garcia. Romero’s chin, however, is questionable. His ability to take shots can be questioned and Romero has been brutally knocked out before. KingRy’ has a solid chin and can take what comes in his way. He can also serve it out good. Garcia might be able to take Romero’s offerings before landing his own finishing shots midway through the fight.”
Loot Levinson writes: “I’m betting that the Ryan Garcia vs. Rolly Romero fight goes under 6.5 completed rounds at -115 betting odds. You have two fighters with big firepower whose defensive abilities lag far behind their offensive prowess. Combine that with the urgency of Garcia and the style of Romero, and it seems a lot would need to go wrong for this to be a fight that goes into the latter rounds.”
Ryan Garcia has a record of 24-1, with 20 KOs. His most recent bout vs. Devin Haney on April 20, 2024 was ruled a no contest after Garcia failed a post-fight drug test that resulted in a one-year suspension.
Rolly Romero comes into the bout with a a record of 16-2, with 13 KOs.
Ryan Garcia weighed in at 146.8 pounds for his fight against Rolly Romero.
Rolly Romero weighed in at 146.6 pounds for his fight against Ryan Garcia.
Mike Tyson announced on X he will be a guest analyst for the boxing show at Times Square. He certainly has the requisite stamina.
In September, while training for his fight against Jake Paul, Tyson provided commentary for “Cage Wars 67,” a mixed martial arts event Schenectady, N.Y. that lasted about four hours. Tyson stayed for the entire livestream and proved to be personable and entertaining.
Trent Reinsmith writes, “Haney lost a lot of his shine against Garcia. Sure the fight was ruled a no contest after Garcia’s failed drug tests, but that doesn’t erase the fact that Haney was dropped three times in that fight. Look for him to make a statement against an opponent he should beat, even on Ramirez’s best day.
“The betting pick is for Devin Haney to beat Jose Ramirez via decision.”
Devin Haney weighed in at 143 pounds. The limit was 144 pounds.
Jose Ramirez weighed in at 143.8 pounds. The limit was 144 pounds.
Haney is 31-0-0 with 15 KOs. Ramirez is 29-2 with 18 KOs.
CBS Sports: Teofimo Lopez to win via decision (-130)
Brent Brookhouse writes, “Gambling on a Lopez fight is a terrifying prospect. At times, he utilizes his extreme talent to maximum effect. Other times, he squanders that talent and gets outworked by less talented fighters. Barboza is a good fighter and an upset is very much in play, especially if Lopez again shows an inability to cut off the ring and lets fits of inactivity happen as the rounds tick by. Barboza is a better fighter than George Kambosos, who upset Lopez in 2021. All that said, Lopez is the better fighter and should be expected to manage the victory. Lopez has scored one knockdown and one stoppage since 2020 and Barboza is a good enough fighter that he’s unlikely to get stopped.”
Lopez weighed in at 139.6 pounds. The limit is 140 pounds.
Barboza Jr. weighed in at 139.8 pounds. The limit is 140 pounds.
Lopez is 21-1 with 18 KOs. Barboza is 32-0 with 11 KOs.
Ryan Garcia was suspended for one year after he tested positive for a banned substance following his fight against Devin Haney April 20, 2024. The drug test came back positive for oastarine, an anabolic selective androgen receptor modulator (SARM) not approved by the Food and Drug Administration for human use.
Ryan Garcia beat Devin Haney by majority decision. But Garcia’s failed drug test rendered the bout a no-contest.
INGLEWOOD, Calif. — Denver Nuggets guard Russell Westbrook left Thursday night’s 117-83 loss to the LA Clippers in Game 3 of the Western Conference playoff series with left foot inflammation midway through the second quarter, while forward Michael Porter Jr. played through a painful left shoulder injury and said he wasn’t sure if he would be available for Saturday’s Game 4.
Westbrook turned his left foot while warming up before the game and attempted to play through the injury before being taken out midway through the second quarter.
Porter Jr. injured his left, non-shooting shoulder while diving for a ball near the end of Denver’s Game 2 loss on Monday. A source told ESPN that Porter suffered a Grade 2 sprain of a joint in his shoulder. Porter said he was unable to lift his arm above his shoulder on the two off days and that it was incredibly painful but said that he wanted to try to play Thursday to give his team a lift.
“They say it’s normally a four-, five-week injury,” Porter Jr. said. “I mean, you use your shoulder for everything. It was tough to rebound. Tough to bring it up to shoot. It was probably like 20-30 percent. I couldn’t really use it.”
Asked if he’d be able to play Saturday in Game 4, with the Nuggets now trailing in the series 2-1, Porter said that he will try.
“If I can, I will,” he said. “If it’s still in the place like it is today and I don’t feel like I can even bring any help to the team at all, then there’s no point in trying to go out there.”
Nuggets coach David Adelman repeatedly praised Porter Jr.’s toughness in trying to play through the injury. Teammate Aaron Gordon called him a “warrior.” But it was clear early Thursday that the Nuggets’ best 3-point shooter was limited. Porter Jr. seemed to be dragging his left arm as he ran up and down the court all night. He finished 2-for-9 from the field, hitting just one 3-pointer and grabbing seven rebounds.
That contributed somewhat to the huge disparity in 3-point shooting between the teams. The Clippers hit 18 of their 39 3-point shots from behind the arc (46%), whereas Denver hit just 7-of-26 (28%).
L.A. built a 20-point lead early behind that hot shooting and never looked back as it won its first playoff game in the new Intuit Dome. It was the Clippers’ third-largest playoff victory in franchise history.
Denver’s Nikola Jokic became the first player in postseason history to record consecutive 20-point triple doubles and lose both games. Jokic had 23 points, 13 rebounds and 13 assists in Game 3.
This is the 10th time the Clippers have held a 2-1 lead in a best-of-7 series. They are 4-5 in the previous nine series, the only team in NBA history with a losing series record in that scenario.
Game 4 is Saturday at 3 p.m. PT.
“I wish it was faster. I don’t want to think about this one anymore,” Nuggets forward Christian Braun said after the game. “We’ll be ready. We just got punched in the mouth and you have to respond. You can’t roll over. You can’t complain. Like I said, I wish the game was earlier. I wish we could respond earlier.”
F1 — an Apple Original Film distributed by Warner Bros. Pictures —is poised to take audiences into the driver’s seat on June 27 when it races into theaters.
The film stars Brad Pitt and Damson Idris as competing F1 drivers, one a veteran looking for redemption and the other a rookie with a chip on his shoulder.
Writer-director Joseph Kosinski and Damson Idris explain how the support of Formula One made the film possible.
Writer-director Joseph Kosinski redefined the “need for speed” with 2022’s Top Gun: Maverick, and he’s ready to do it again — only this time on the race track.
The filmmaker is the mind behind this summer’s F1, out June 27, a movie that takes audiences inside the world of Formula One racing and puts them up close and personal with the sport and its drivers, who, as it turns out, have a fair amount in common with fighter pilots.
“They are the rock stars of their own universe,” Kosinski says, “and obviously they both have a need for speed.”
But when it came to actually making the film, there were very few similarities to Kosinski’s 2022 hit. “On Top Gun, we were off on an aircraft carrier 100 miles off the coast,” the director explains. “This movie we shot in front of an audience of 400,000 people. Often, I had only a few minutes to shoot a scene because we were actually shooting it at the real live event. There was a stage-play-esque vibe to this where we had to be very well prepared, but execute in the moment and only get a few takes at a scene.”
Yet it was Top Gun that inadvertently led to F1 in a roundabout way, as Kosinski first met F1 superstar Lewis Hamilton when they discussed the driver’s potential involvement with Maverick. Then, during the COVID-19 lockdown, Kosinski got hooked onthe Netflix docu-series Drive to Survive, which follows teams over the course of the Formula One season.
Damson Idris in ‘F1’.
Courtesy Warner Bros. Pictures / Apple Original Films
“I was fascinated by this notion that your teammate can be your biggest enemy,” the director says. “Everyone’s always comparing who’s faster. To me, that seemed very ripe for drama. So, I dropped Lewis an email and said, ‘Hey, I’d love to make a movie in this world. Would you be interested in helping me?’ And he said he would.”
Now, four years later, that movie is ready to start its proverbial engine. F1 stars Brad Pitt as Sonny Hayes, a former driver who retired after a horrible crash. But old friend and former teammate Ruben Cervantes (Javier Bardem) approaches Sonny with a tantalizing proposition — come out of retirement and help coach his rookie prodigy, Joshua “Noah” Pearce (Damson Idris).
The casting and narrative offer a fitting metaphor, given that Idris is a promising newcomer on screen himself (audiences will know him best from six seasons of FX’s Snowfall) and Pitt is a long-time movie star. Kosinski already knew Pitt and wanted an “icon” for the role; he felt the actor was the perfect choice.
Idris, on the other hand, landed the part after a series of auditions that culminated with the ultimate test — getting behind the wheel for real. The actor, 33, says he’s been a fan of F1 for a long time and attended his first race in 2018, but he never considered actually driving in one.
“The feeling I felt before was absolute fear,” the actor confesses. “But at the end of it, driving up to 180 miles per hour, going from track to track around the world, is an opportunity that I could never have dreamed of.”
It was crucial to Kosinski that his lead actors be able to do all their own driving. “After reading scenes, we actually put him in a race car out at a track just north of London,” the director says. “We spent a day testing his skills to make sure he had enough there that we could develop it into something.”
For Idris, it was a true test of his nerves thanks to some characteristically British weather. “It was insane,” he says. “The universe decided to rain that day. I went to Bedford Autodrome, and I jumped in an F-3000, and they attached cameras to the car. It was really a test of maturity, humility, and patience.”
Javier Bardem and Brad Pitt in ‘F1’.
Scott Garfield Courtesy Warner Bros. Pictures / Apple Original Films
From there, Idris spent seven months in intense training behind the wheel. “You start to go to sleep and dream of the corners,” he says. “You just build a real confidence due to the time and repetition going around the track.”
Though Idris never had a problem with the fast speeds, getting the car started was the true challenge. “I was really good at driving at crazy speeds,” the actor says. “I was really good at driving around the track and doing all the crazy turns. The hardest thing for me was actually getting a car started. The clutch is a hand clutch.”
Idris adds, “Brad was just exquisite at it. But man, there was some sort of coordination that just was not clicking with me. Once I got it started, I was ready to fly.”
And it turns out, driving as fast as you can isn’t just fun. It’s safer. Idris says “the best thing” the head stunt driver told him “was that the slower you drive, the worse it actually is for the car. The car starts to break down because you’re not getting enough heat into the tires.”
The actor’s preparation behind the wheel was the first step toward making something that felt electric and alive. But the other essential piece was getting the Formula One racing community to support and appear in the film.
“We had a scene where every single team came out with all their mechanics, and they pretended like everyone was repairing their cars on the pit while we were shooting,” Kosinski explains. “We shot at every race. We had a garage on the pit lane next to their garages. We would not have been able to make this movie without them. It certainly wouldn’t look the way it does without their participation.”
But that also made the filmmakers’ and actors’ groundwork even more critical. “We would often have five to 10 minutes, a very, very short window, to shoot a scene,” Kosinski says. “Only getting two or three takes is something that we’re not used to. It was more live performance, and we had to get it right.”
Brad Pitt and Kerry Condon in ‘F1’.
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He adds, “I was amazed at how few mistakes people made when it really counted. It’s like something in your brain dials in and tells you you have to get it right. So you do.”
In addition to immersing the audience in the real races and locations of Formula One, the need to move quickly under pressure ultimately heightened the film’s stakes. “You feel it in the performances,” Kosinski notes. “There’s an energy and an adrenaline pumping through when shooting in a real situation that, hopefully, I was able to capture.”
That realism extended to drivers playing themselves in the film, both in dialogue scenes and driving in action scenes. Kosinski shot a podium sequence for the film at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, minutes after the actual medal podium was presented. But even though Kosinski found the drivers’ support invaluable, it didn’t mean Idris and Pitt were out there befriending them.
“I purposefully didn’t become friends with them because I wanted to have the mentality that they are my competition,” Idris explains.
Still, that didn’t stop him from asking for advice in critical moments. “We’re doing the national anthem at Silverstone [racetrack], and I turned to the right, and I was like, ‘Hey man, during the national anthem, do you zip the suit up or do you zip the suit down?’ Brad and I had ours up, and everyone else had theirs down.”
Idris also credits Hamilton and his presence on set with helping him shape his character. “He’d always come to set with such energy,” the actor says. “I’m completely indebted to him for teaching me the mindset of a rookie and how insane this sport is and how much focus it takes.”
Both Idris and Kosinski hope the film will inspire legions of new fans and showcase the wide variety of roles within the world of F1. “The film’s not just about the drivers,” the director says. “It’s about all the people behind the scenes, who make the car run, the engineers, the pit crew. You get to see a little bit of how a full team works.”
Even if you don’t know Formula One from NASCAR, don’t worry. “We had to make a film that worked for the F1 aficionado and at the same time played to someone who didn’t know anything about racing,” Kosinski concludes. “Serving those two gods at the same time has been a really unique challenge. But Formula One hasn’t nearly tapped its potential in the United States, and it’d be great to convert more people.”
In short, Kosinski hopes F1 will give a new audience the green flag to get into the sport.
Blake Lively went on “Late Night With Seth Meyers” on Thursday night for her first TV interview since her ongoing legal battle with Justin Baldoni.
The former “Gossip Girl” star, 37, said that she wasn’t able to speak about the legal battle much, but she acknowledged her “intense year,” saying it’s “been full of the highest highs and the lowest lows of my life.”
She called her family – including husband Ryan Reynolds, 48, who she married in 2012, and four kids – her “lifeline.”
Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds at the New York screening of Amazon Prime Video’s ‘Another Simple Favor’ held at Jazz at Lincoln Center on April 27, 2025 in Manhattan. Image Press Agency / SplashNews.comBlake Lively during an interview with host Seth Meyers on May 1, 2025. Lloyd Bishop/NBC via Getty Images
“It’s no surprise I’ve had a pretty intense year, and they’re just my lifeline. No matter what day I’m having, I have to be Disneyland for them,” she said, referring to her kids.
The “A Simple Favor” star added: “I see so many women around afraid to speak, especially now, afraid to share their experience. Fear is by design, it’s what keeps us silent.”
Lively, who wasn’t wearing her wedding ring, emphasized how “fortunate” she is to “have the opportunity to speak.”
Lively has been making headlines for over four months for her ongoing legal battle with her former “It Ends With Us” co-star and director Baldoni, 41.
The hit movie, which came out over the summer and is based on a novel by Colleen Hoover, is about a relationship where Baldoni’s character abuses Lively’s character.
Justin Baldoni and Blake Lively are seen on the set of ‘It Ends with Us’ on Jan. 12, 2024 in Jersey City, New Jersey. GC ImagesJustin Baldoni and Blake Lively are seen on the set of “It Ends with Us” on Jan.12, 2024 in Jersey City, New Jersey. GC Images
The legal battle began in December, when Lively filed a lawsuit against Baldoni.
Lively’s lawsuit alleged that Baldoni sexually harassed her on the set.
According to the legal docs, Lively also accused Baldoni of “a coordinated effort to destroy her reputation” after the movie was released.
In the docs, Lively said that the alleged smear campaign caused harm to her business and led to her family experiencing “severe emotional distress.”
Baldoni denied the allegations and countersued Lively and her husband, Ryan Reynolds, 48, for $400 million over alleged defamation and extortion.
A trial date has been scheduled for March 2026.
Blake Lively attends the 2025 Time100 Gala at Lincoln Center on April 24, 2025 in New York City. WireImage Blake Lively during an interview with host Seth Meyers on May 1, 2025. Lloyd Bishop/NBC via Getty ImagesBlake Lively and Ryan Reynolds are seen on April 29, 2025 in New York City. GC Images
During the interview, Lively also bonded with Seth Meyers over raising boys, calling the experience a “crazy” one.
She called the toddler a “dream” — but acknowledged that her house is “chaos at all times” with him and daughters James, 10, Inez, 8, and Betty, 5.
“It’s different,” she added of having a son. “He just, like, announces that I’m the love of his life at all times, which is just the best feeling in the world.
“I get dressed every day like I’m a girl in middle school,” the “Another Simple Favor” star continued. “Like, ‘Oh, my gosh … I hope he, like, says something.’”
ESPN Expands Coverage with New Los Angeles-Based Edition of WNBA Countdown, Featuring Host Malika Andrews in an Expanded Role
ESPN, which has presented the WNBA since the league’s inception in 1997, will once again feature a full slate of regular season games presented by Google during its 29th season, in addition to being the exclusive home of the entire WNBA postseason.
Extensive coverage begins Sunday, May 4 when ESPN’s coverage of the WNBA’s 2025 preseason Presented By State Farm action tips off with the Indiana Fever, featuring Caitlin Clark, the University of Iowa alum who was selected to the All-WNBA First Team as a rookie last year, as she leads the Fever into Carver-Hawkeye Arena in Iowa City to face the Brazil Women’s National Team on ESPN at 4 p.m. ET.
Industry-leading commentator team ESPN’s game telecasts will feature two commentator teams. Play-by-play voice Ryan Ruocco and Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Famers Rebecca Lobo and Holly Rowe return for their 13th season together as ESPN’s lead WNBA broadcast team. The trio will call marquee matchups throughout the season and will call the WNBA Finals. ESPN’s second commentator team will feature veteran women’s basketball play-by-play voice Pam Ward, LaChina Robinson who brings her expertise back to the game analyst role,andAngel Gray who will be in the sideline reporter role as well as in the play-by-play role at times throughout the season.
WNBA Countdown presented by Google reunites Duncan, Ogwumike and Carter on ABC and expands to Los Angeles with host Malika Andrews, alongside Monica McNutt and Carolyn Peck
WNBA Countdown presented by Google — ESPN’s pregame show —- reunites Elle Duncan, Chiney Ogwumike and Andraya Carter on ABC and expands to Los Angeles with host Malika Andrewsalongside Monica McNutt and former WNBA head coach, GM and Women’s Basketball Hall of Famer Carolyn Peck.
WNBA Countdown presented by Google – ABC and ESPN’s pregame show will showcase two distinct broadcast desks throughout the regular season. On ABC, the Bristol-based show will feature SportsCenteranchor and women’s basketball host Elle Duncan, analysts Chiney Ogwumike and Andraya Carter, as the trio returns for their second consecutive season.
On ESPN’s WNBA Countdown editions, NBA Today and NBA Countdown host, Malika Andrews — a leading voice of ESPN’s NBA coverage — will add WNBA studio coverage to her duties and serve as host, joined by analysts Monica McNutt, Carolyn Peck, Chiney Owgumike and Andraya Carter in Los Angeles. Andrews will contribute across multiple platforms, adding depth and reach to ESPN’s coverage. In her expanded WNBA role, Andrews will also spotlight WNBA news on NBA Today and NBA Countdown through enhanced editorial coverage and cross promotion.
Joining Duncan and Andrews in hosting duties is SportsCenter anchor Christine Williamson.
“We’ve built an industry-leading commentator team that reflects our deep commitment to covering every aspect of the WNBA”, said Tim Corrigan, ESPN Senior Vice President of Sports Production. “Adding Malika Andrews to this elite commentator team to lead our efforts out of Los Angeles is another statement in the elevation of our coverage around the WNBA. With our state-of-the-art facilities in Los Angeles, we’re positioned to produce dynamic, year-round content that connects the WNBA and NBA in exciting new ways. This is about breaking new ground—creating synergy, telling bigger stories, and delivering our best across platforms.”
Andrews will make her WNBA debut Sunday, May 4, when she hosts WNBA Countdown preceding the Brazil National Team vs Indiana Fever preseason game on ESPN at 3 p.m. ET, alongside Ogwumike, Carter and McNutt. Game coverage tips off at 4 p.m. ET, and feature Ruocco (play-by-play), Lobo (analyst), Rowe (sideline reporter).
Digital coverage expands as WNBA Hoop Streams Presented by Google returns for the 2025 season. The social and digital pregame show launches Saturday, May 17 at 6:30 p.m. ET across YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, and the ESPN App. Sam Ravech and Ari Chambers will host the premiere edition, with Christine Williamson serving as lead host throughout the season alongside Chambers, Robinson, and other ESPN talent.
ESPN.comwill provide robust WNBA coverage all season long with live game analysis, breaking news, and feature reporting. Michael Voepel’s WNBA Power Rankings will update weekly. Alexa Philippou, Kendra Andrews and Kevin Pelton will contribute regularly with storytelling and advanced analysis.
ESPN’s regular-season coverage presented by Google tips off on Saturday, May 17
ESPN’s regular-season coverage tips off on Saturday, May 17, with the WNBA Tip Off Presented by CarMax doubleheader featuring two-time WNBA champion Las Vegas Aces visit the reigning champion New York Liberty (1 p.m. ET, ABC, Disney+, ESPN+). Coverage on ABC begins at 12:30pm ET with an onsite edition of WNBA Countdown hosted byDuncan, Ogwumike, and Carter.Gray, Robinson and Williamson will call the action from Barclays Center.
In the second game of the day, reigning Kia WNBA Rookie of the Year and 2024 All-WNBA First Team selection Caitlin Clark and the Indiana Fever host 2024 WNBA All-Rookie Team pick Angel Reese and the Chicago Sky (3 p.m. ET, ABC, Disney+, ESPN+,). Ruocco, Lobo and Rowe will call the action from Gainbridge Fieldhouse.Halftime will be hosted by Andrews, alongside McNutt and Peck, with WNBA Countdown from Los Angeles.
The Denver Nuggets are on the road on Thursday night for Game 6 of their first-round series against the Los Angeles Clippers.
Thursday’s game is a massive one for both sides as the Nuggets look to clinch the series with a victory while the Clippers need to win to keep their season alive.
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Of course, the Nuggets dominated Game 5 of the series on their home court on Tuesday night behind incredible performances from Jamal Murray, Aaron Gordon and Nikola Jokic.
Now, Denver will look to wrap up the series and advance to the second round where they will meet the Oklahoma City Thunder.
Apr 11, 2025; Denver, Colorado, USA; Denver Nuggets forward Michael Porter Jr. (1) reacts before the game against the Memphis Grizzlies at Ball Arena. Mandatory Credit: Ron Chenoy-Imagn Images Ron Chenoy-Imagn Images
Ahead of Thursday’s game, Denver received some positive news regarding two of their key players.
Denver announced that both Russell Westbrook and Michael Porter Jr. will be available to play in Game 6 despite dealing with injuries.
For Westbrook, he was limited in Game 3 and then was sidelined for Game 4 due to right foot inflammation.
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The former MVP was able to return for Game 5 on Tuesday where he had a great performance off the bench and he will now be available for the Nuggets in Game 6 despite being listed as probable before the game.
For Porter Jr., he was also listed as probable due to a left shoulder sprain that has bothered him throughout most of the series.
Despite this, Porter Jr. has not missed any time due to the injury and he will be a full go on Thursday night.
This is massive news for the Nuggets who will have their entire core available for Game 6 in Los Angeles as they try to close out the series with a victory.
Fans can catch Thursday’s Game 6 matchup between the Nuggets and Clippers from Los Angeles at 10:00 p.m. EST on TNT.
ESPN‘s Malika Andrews is joining “WNBA Countdown” as a co-host on the studio show’s new Los Angeles-based program.
Andrews’ appointment comes as ABC and ESPN are creating two broadcast desks for the pregame show: the current version of “WNBA Countdown,” hosted out of Bristol, and another setup in L.A.
On ABC, the Bristol-based “WNBA Countdown” will feature the returning lineup of SportsCenter anchor and women’s basketball host Elle Duncan, analysts Chiney Ogwumike and Andraya Carter.
Meanwhile, ESPN’s “WNBA Countdown” will be hosted out of Los Angeles by Andrews and analysts Monica McNutt, Carolyn Peck, Owgumike and Carter.
Introduced during the 2022 WNBA postseason, “WNBA Countdown” now serves as a pregame show throughout the regular season, playoffs and finals.
Currently serving as the host of ESPN’s weekday NBA studio show, “NBA Today,” and all editions of “NBA Countdown,” Andrews will make her “WNBA Countdown” debut Sunday ahead of the Brazil National Team vs. Indiana Fever preseason game on ESPN at 3 p.m. ET, alongside Ogwumike and Carter.
In her newly expanded role, Andrews will contribute across multiple platforms, adding depth and reach to ESPN’s coverage. She will also spotlight WNBA news on “NBA Today” and “NBA Countdown.”
Game coverage will begin at 4 p.m. ET and feature Ryan Ruocco (play-by-play), Rebecca Lobo (analyst), and Holly Rowe (sideline reporter), who are returning for their 13th season together.
Andrews made her EPSN debut as a sideline reporter during the 2019-20 season at the ESPN World of Sports Complex in Florida, serving as a sideline reporter throughout the NBA Playoffs and making her one of the youngest sideline reporters ever for a Conference Finals telecast. Andrews was one of the first reporters on ground to report from the NBA’s temporary Florida campus after the league’s decision to resume the season following a four-month hiatus due to outbreak of COVID-19.
She received the Sports Emmy for Outstanding Personality/Emerging On-Air Talent in 2022.
Prior to joining ESPN in October 2018, Andrews worked for one year as a reporter for the Chicago Tribune. Andrews also worked for one year as a James Reston Reporting Fellow in the sports department at The New York Times.
She is repped by CAA Sports and Jill Fritzo Public Relations.
“Last week, I got invited to learn how to play the new zombie maps on ‘Call of Duty Black Ops 6’ after a day of meeting in Port Huron,” Slotkin said.
The 48-year-old former CIA analyst shared a video of her attempt to navigate the PC, PlayStation and Xbox shooter game.
Slotkin’s gaming gurus helped school her on the ins and outs of the controller, which seemed to have undergone a modern upgrade since the last time she picked one up.
“Pac-Man did not have any of that,” she said.
“There used to be like two knobs, basically, and now there’s like 85 different things,” Slotkin said with a grin, before appearing to struggle in her virtual battle to defeat some of Call of Duty demons.
“A lady zombie just killed me!” she exclaimed at one point. “A lady zombie in pigtails just took me out. Now I’m shooting my own leg.”
“I just wonder how many times one person can get eaten,” she told her gaming companions.
But despite succumbing to the zombies, Slotkin indicated her Call of Duty effort was a success.
“That was amazing. I actually liked it a lot more than I thought I would,” she said.
“Now I’m going to have a ton of street cred with my nephews,” Slotkin said, “who were ashamed of me coming here and were like, ‘You’re going to embarrass us so bad.’”
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Sen. Elissa Slotkin, D-Mich., while recently discussing the Democrats’ brand crisis, told Politico that the party ought to avoid using the term “oligarchy” because it doesn’t resonate outside coastal institutions and suggested that Democrats say “kings” instead. Days later, Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., who has been drawing massive crowds on his “Fighting Oligarchy” tour, retorted, “I think the American people are not quite as dumb as Ms. Slotkin thinks they are.” He continued, “I think they understand very well. When the top 1% owns more wealth than the bottom 90%, when big money interests are able to control both political parties, they are living in an oligarchy.”
Naturally, a democratic socialist is more inclined than a conservative Rust Belt Democrat to push the idea that America is run by a small group of wealthy elites. But there’s another dimension to the rift over talking about “oligarchy” that’s not as much about politics as it is political communication: Establishment Democrats don’t believe they can persuade the public to adopt new positions and rethink their worldview.
The party knows that it was shellacked and yet has no confidence to pursue reinvention.
Slotkin said so herself. Prompted by a journalist to respond to Sanders’ comment, she said, “I agree with everything he said, other than, my dad didn’t know what oligarchy meant.” In other words, she’s skeptical that the idea of “oligarchy” can even be transmitted to and understood by a mass public. That hesitation to present alternative positions that might sit outside mainstream thinking is shared by many of her colleagues — and it’s key to understanding the party’s crisis, and the country’s crisis.
Look at the way the Democratic Party has largely frozen up and avoided a full-on confrontation with President Donald Trump since the November election. The party knows that it was shellacked and yet has no confidence to pursue reinvention or explain what they’re fighting for. Democratic strategist James Carville’s advice to Dems after that election was to “roll over and play dead.” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said he was inclined to hang back and let Trump “screw up,” a mindset that has informed his refusal to fight hard in the Senate.
Many Democrats have decided that Trump has won the day on immigration. They have voted with him on the issue and hesitated in pushing back against his extreme deportation agenda, despite him shredding up due process and First Amendment rights. California Gov. Gavin Newsom, a potential 2028 Democratic White House hopeful, seems to be adopting MAGA-friendly positions objecting to “woke culture.” On his podcast, he provided a friendly platform for former Trump campaign manager Steve Bannon to lie about the 2020 election. The party remains stuck in a state of permanent anxiety that preceded their loss — last year President Joe Biden and later Vice President Kamala Harris appeared to fear standing for anything other than defending against Trump.
Democrats have quasi-surrendered to Trump in part because many believe Trump has a finger on the pulse of the body politic on issues such as immigration and believe that their pushing back will backfire. But there’s also an absence of faith that the party can embark upon persuading the public to see things in a way that isn’t defined by the right or isn’t a reversion to a pre-Trumpian status quo. Slotkin’s preference for “kings” is a poignant example because, while she’s obviously right that the word is more recognizable, she’s taking a position against pursuing a positive new identity and theory of class antagonism that “oligarchy” portends.
If there ever was a time for Democrats to experiment with new ideas to adapt to our populist era, now’s that time. Trump won the popular vote and increased his share of support in over 90% of counties across the U.S., compared to 2020, and the Democratic Party is experiencing record-breaking levels of unpopularity. Democrats also have significant room to experiment with messaging and policy as a minority party — the next set of elections are still 18 months away. What is there to lose?
Democrats have been unable to think outside narrow status quo-oriented paradigms for decades. President Bill Clinton’s strategy of “triangulation” — co-opting conservative talking points to deflect attacks from the right — has shaped the party’s thinking ever since, and his longtime allies are now saying it’s the way forward even as Trump plunges us into an authoritarian nightmare. An adjacent mistake is Democrats, especially center-left pundits and strategists, promoting “popularism,” the idea that Dems should only align themselves with policies and rhetoric that poll highly at the current moment.
But Democrats are mistaken — and catastrophically so. And not just in their general refusal to call out “oligarchy.” The party needs to stand for something real and worthwhile instead of trying to find a way to contort itself to ride out waves of reaction. Persuasion requires an experimental mindset and a willingness to try new things. It is indeed possible to persuade people to accept radically new beliefs — as Trump has repeatedly proved in the last decade.
Slotkin’s apparent belief that “oligarchy” is a term only intelligible to liberal elites isn’t even right. Data for Progress surveyed likely voters in late February and early March — after Sanders kicked off his tour — and asked them to choose the definition of “oligarchy” from multiple choices describing different forms of government without labels, including oligarchy, autocracy, theocracy and direct democracy. A majority answered correctly and, crucially, were able to correctly distinguish between definitions of oligarchy and autocracy. Not only did 54% of Democrats chose the correct answer, but 68% of independent or third-party voters, and 48% of Republicans did, too. After being given the definition of oligarchy, 60% of likely voters said the U.S. was at least somewhat oligarchic.
Public opinion is never fixed, and political leaders have a huge role to play in shaping the way their party understands issues.
Those results don’t mean that oligarchy is widely understood yet. But they illustrate that the term is legible with context and that it has the potential to gain purchase with the broader public.
Public opinion is never fixed, and political leaders have a huge role to play in shaping the way their party understands issues. “There’s lots of research that shows that political leaders often can have very significant persuasive power over the loyal followers of their party,” David Hopkins, a political scientist at Boston College, told me. “For a lot of people who are partisans, their identity as a partisan is more central to them than their position on most policy issues.” He noted how President Barack Obama’s switch to support of gay marriage triggered “a noticeable jump” in the share of Democrats, especially Black Democrats, who support gay marriage.
In another Data for Progress poll in March, likely voters were initially opposed to Nippon Steel Corporation, a Japanese company, acquiring U.S. Steel. But after seeing supportive messages from their own party regarding the acquisition, Democrats shifted in favor of it by an astonishing 69 points.
Trump illustrates the capacity of a politician to persuade followers to adopt new beliefs. He has transformed his own party’s attitudes toward immigration, free trade, Canada, Europe, the Russia-Ukraine war, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, and on all kinds of norms of propriety in the public sphere. Trump is anti-intellectual, but he has also brought obscure, abstract concepts into wide circulation, such as the idea of “the deep state.” It is a term that Trump uses deceptively and toward reactionary purposes, but there is a kernel of truth to his point that government bureaucracy personnel can have power and interests that are distinct from and at odds with democratically elected leaders — for better and worse. It’s a theoretical concept, and it doesn’t make oligarchy look like an impossible lift.
Changing the views of your own party, ideally toward good ideas that match the moment and excite people, is in and of itself important in a highly polarized era where turnout is essential to winning electoral contests. But the tougher sell is persuading people outside one’s base. Here, too, Trump showed success. Trump not only changed his own party’s positions on issues such as free trade and immigration, he also put Democrats on their back foot on those issues while attracting low-information swing voters looking for a change-coded candidate.
None of this is to say that politicians should gravitate toward unpopular ideas or that they should show indifference to current public interest in policies. The point is that the popularity of a policy or a message is not fixed, and figuring out how a message can resonate is not something that can be worked out purely through guesswork. It involves effective, charismatic politicians testing assumptions and seeing what happens — and not backing off of the moment those new ideas, as so many do, receive backlash. (Consider how Harris immediately distanced herself from her most economically populist-sounding policy in 2024 — cracking down on corporate price gouging — the moment it got fierce pushback from mainstream media and the right.)
“Especially in this moment, voters value their leaders being authentic and fighting for them,” Ryan O’Donnell, deputy executive director at Data for Progress, told me. “Public opinion matters — it’s important to know where voters stand — but popularism risks triangulation and inauthenticity if pinpointing those preferences is all you care about.”
To that point, look at what the huge crowds for Sanders are telling us. Last month the data journalist G. Elliott Morris aggregated three months of YouGov polls asking respondents how favorably they view prominent political figures or possible 2028 candidates, and he determined that Sanders was the most popular political figure in America — and the only one with a significant net favorability rating. Here’s his analysis:
One theory for Sanders’ relative crossover appeal is his emphasis on criticism of the system — something young men in particular shared with him in 2016, and which left them open to the appeal of Trumpism in 2024 (especially post inflation in 2022-2023). Sanders’s campaigning against the neoliberal consensus is persuasive with the many voters (and again, especially young people) that believe has left them behind. Trump was the voice for this cohort in 2024, as Sanders was in the 2016 primary (and to a certain extent in the 2016 general). Maybe Democrats can learn something from that.
There is a growing oligarchy in this country and Democrats not talking about it hasn’t helped them avoid horrific approval ratings. They need to embrace change, not only for their party’s survival, but for the survival of the republic.